Guest Howard
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But to be fair Jung, your question didn’t reference sibling little sister. It was more generic. “Anyone know of any other little sis songs? Or big sis songs are OK too!”
Now why did I always think you might have been spoilt. That photo you posted of the family gave that one away! I have an older sister and two older brothers and a younger sister that came along about 14 months after me, so I didn’t get much time to be spoilt. Our youngest sibling came along about five years later, and yes, he was spoilt.
Hard to find “big sister” songs. None come to my mind, but I’ve no doubt, someone from this illustrious Club will find one.
If not, then perhaps Mona just might have to write one. Not too late for the new originals album they’re preparing. Lisa could also respond with her own “Little Sister” original!
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And how about “Cry Little Sister”
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And how about a “Hillbilly Deluxe” version?
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Queens of the Stone Age – “Little sister”
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Nice song and some very beautiful Autum photos Joe. However, as Mona alludes to, not really their gig at the moment.
All we need from the Strawbs now is “Spring” and “Summer” and we have a modern day Bach!
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Some nice videos there of bands I wasn’t aware of jacki. Thanks for sharing.
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“ but for me, tea is basically a flavor of Kool-Aid.“
You Americans are a weird and wonderful mob!
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Hey Joe, my post wasn’t meant to be taken personally. I do appreciate your many contributions to the Club Forum but do reserve the right to make my views heard when I feel appropriate. I have plenty to be critical of in the music industry and that is the main reason I am a MLT supporter. They represent all that is beautiful and and wholesame in the music industry and fortunately they are able to do this by being truly independent and not compromised by the industry.
There is a good reason why the DC5 went from being the Beatles main competitor in the United States for two years in 1964 and 1965 and relative unknowns today. Compare that to the Beatles legacy. It’s called kama!
Yes, everyone comes with their baggage, but can you really think of any serious musician with the baggage of Dave Clark?
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“homemade coconut-ginger cookie”. Ah! Can I see another cooking show coming on. Long overdue. I still can’t forget those two you made early on in the Club.
Now Jacki, you also seem to be an awesome cookie cooker! And I know you are a big Tim Hortons patron. I was a big tea drinker in the sixties and seventies, but have since become a big coffee drinker, probably due to the convenience of new coffee machines. I do miss those tea parties though. There’s nothing like putting the kettle on for a pot of tea when guests arrive.
Nice video Jung. However, only one side of the audio was working for me and I missed the punchline. What is his final comment?
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I agree Lisa. There are some wonderful Stones songs suitable for you to cover but although this is a great track, I don’t really think it is the MLT style.
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”Lizzie walks outside and hears three children jump roping to the famous nursery rhyme, the time period’s popular children’s skipping-rope rhyme:”
Lizzie Borden took an axe
She gave her mother forty whacks.
When she saw what she had done
She gave her father forty-one.
Lizzie Borden got away
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They’re not alone Jung. Many businesses across the world are suffering at the moment and it is particularly difficult fot those in the entertainment industry. A three day musical festival I was planning attending, the “Nimbin Roots Festival” has just been forced to close, owing to another outbreak of Covid 19 in the state. Fortunately there is still one happening in my state next month as we have the virus more under control, at the moment at least. It will be the start of our spring and the weather will be ideal for camping.
Rock ‘N’ Blues Fest.
https://www.mitchellcreekrocknbluesfest.com.au
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Wow! That is a very moving story Josh. Thank you for sharing it with us. I can only endorse what others here have said and wish Lola and her family all the best for the future.
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I don’t think you were missing too much with the DC5 as a two year old, Jung. Like most adolescents at the time, I got into their loud, brashy style too, but over time came to realise they were all show and little depth. I’ve posted elsewhere on what I think of Dave Clark. He was a business man, not a true musician in my view and as band manager and producer, he was almost as bad as the American manager that Badfinger adopted when they unfortunately left Apple.
He was the worst drummer in the business and it wasn’t until much later that I found out just how badly he treated the members of his band. Clark forced them to sign contracts that gave him a music credit for anything they wrote and eventually meant him getting most of the royalty payments.
This post is rather long, but the various quotes I have taken from the web are quite illuminating.
“The Dave Clark Five came roaring out of Tottenham in the early ‘60s with an eye on The Beatles’ beat-group crown. Their speciality was thuggishly simple R&B-inspired pop with extra emphasis on the rhythm—so much so that they named the band after their drummer.”
“The DC5 was promoted as the vanguard of a “Tottenham Sound”, a response to Liverpool’s Mersey Beat sound. Dave Clark struck business deals that allowed him to produce the band’s recordings and gave him control of the master recordings. Songwriting credits went to Clark, Clark and Smith, Clark and Davidson, and Clark and Payton although Ron Ryan actually wrote many of the songs. Session drummer Bobby Graham played, sometimes alongside Clark, on most of the band’s hits. Dave Clark was also the band’s manager and producer of their recordings.”
“Between 1978 and 1993, none of their music was available to be purchased in any commercial format due to rights-holder Clark declining to licence the band’s recordings. Apart from a couple of deals in 1993, No DC5 material was then legally available until 2008, when the 28-track Hits compilation was released by Universal Music in the UK.”
“Dave Clark in particular—had complete control and sat on the catalog hoping for the biggest pay-off they could get. But Clark apparently waited too long. You couldn’t purchase the music of The Dave Clark Five on any format from 1975 to 1993!”
“From what I understand Dave Clark’s keeping the masters off the market was only the tip of the iceberg of his machinations. Often described as a “shrewd businessman” (which he must have been to retain the master rights, when even the Beatles couldn’t accomplish that), he apparently also treated the rest of the band as day laborers, taking (stealing) songwriting credit, paying the band wages as opposed to participation, and summarily sacking them all circa 1970. He even threatened to sue Mike Smith if he referenced “Dave Clark Five” in his latter day tours. Although that business mind-set may be a way to sell a lot of records, it is no way to foster creativity, and the records for the most part betray that.”
“He went into stage production of musicals in London’s West End and made a TON of money. But his ego always overshadowed the rest of the band, many fans thought that HE was the vocalist!! Which must have peeved the very talented and sadly missed Mike Smith.”
“And then of course there’s that little thing about using Bobby Graham as a drummer on all of their hits, which Dave Clark denies. You’d think he’d be happy with the fact that they made some great music (in the studio), but Dave seems to not only be a control freak, but insists that he was drumming on all of those great singles.”
“It’s hard to say how much of a thumper Dave Clark was on the drums, seeing as he never played on any of their recordings – that was mostly a session ace named Bobby Graham.”
“B&P has that wild stomping beat;, It’s basically 1 note all the way thru; the words are shouted rather than sung and the lyrics are all dark despair.”
Worst of all, when lead singer Mike Smith had a bad accident when he was sixty and broke three vertebrea in his spine and lost all feeling from the waist down and in his right arm, Dave Clark never visited him in hospital and never helped him out. It took other musicians, like Bruce Springsteen to support him. Mike died four years later, a virtual pauper. Think about that next time you watch a DC5 video, which these days, I refuse to do.
I’m glad Joe wasn’t able to post anymore videos and it is not surprising when businessman Dave Clark is in control.
Personally I don’t think the MLT will ever touch them and if they ever record “Because”, it will be the Beatles’ “Because”.
