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You’re in luck Michael. They have already completed your trifecta.
“You’re Gonna Lose That Girl” would be one of my picks if not already done. I just love their live version and the video was one of, if not the first I saw and got me hooked on all things MLT!
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Jacki, a trifecta is a horse racing term!
A trifecta is a parimutuel (refer below), bet placed on a horse race in which the bettor must predict which horses will finish first, second, and third, in the exact order.[1] Known as a trifecta in the US and Australia[2], this is known as a tricast in the United Kingdom,[3] a tierce in Hong Kong,[4] a triactor in Canada[5] and a tiercé in France.[6] A variation called “trio”, where the order of the horses is not relevant, is also offered in Hong Kong and France.[4]
The parimutuel system is used in gambling on horse racing, greyhound racing, jai alai, and all sporting events of relatively short duration in which participants finish in a ranked order. A modified parimutuel system is also used in some lottery games.
A “boxed” trifecta is where three horses are selected, and the player wins if these three horses finish first in any order.[1] Boxed bets are effectively equivalent to placing standard trifecta bets on all six possible outcomes of the selected horses. For example, a boxed trifecta of horses numbered 6, 7 and 9, wins if horses finish in any of these combinations of outcomes:
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As for ABBA, all their music wasn’t necessarily disco/dance related. One of their hits in my country was number one for six straight weeks, much to the annoyance of local bands. Must have been similar to how local American bands felt about the Beatles in 1964.
At the time in my country, we had a pop programme where they counted down the top 40 and when they got to number one, played the video. However, after the third week of this ABBA song at number one, they broke their policy and played hit number two for the next three weeks!
This number also includes a case of misheard lyrics. “There was something in your hair that night, the stars stood bright”
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In September 1975, the Bay City Rollers made their U.S. debut on ABC’s ‘Saturday Night Live with Howard Cosell.’ The Scottish boy band, who wore tartan plaid on stage, was introduced by Cosell as the “new Beatles.”
“We’re not saying we’re bigger than the Beatles,” Rollers’ manager Tam Paton told Creem in 1976. “They were fantastic. They were great. And at the time, they were the biggest thing since sliced bread. I just hope people will talk about the Rollers the same way they talk about the Beatles in ten years’ time. And I believe, deeply, that they will.”
That didn’t happen. A few hits followed but, by 1978, the Bay City Rollers had disappeared from the charts.
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The core of British rock group Oasis was brothers Liam and Noel Gallagher, who have peppered their music with lyrical references to Beatles’ songs like ‘Yellow Submarine’ and ‘Helter Skelter.’ The band has even lifted whole riffs from Beatles’ tunes.
“It’s really important to be bigger than the Beatles,” Liam said in 1996. “I think we’re better than the Beatles. … They ain’t the best band in the world – we are.” By 2009, however, Oasis was over — thought the Gallaghers continue to cover Beatles’ songs with their new bands.
Paul McCartney told Q magazine that he was honored that his songs have been copied, “even when things happen like Oasis saying, ‘We are the next Beatles.’ But I also think, ‘Listen, lads, you can’t say that. And don’t say that because it’s probably the kiss of death!’”
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When Rolling Stone in 1979 christened the Knack “the new fab four,” comparisons to the Beatles were inevitable. Then there was their contract with Capitol Records — which was, of course, once the Beatles’ U.S. label. Capitol hardly discouraged the association, using their Beatles-era orange and yellow label for the Knack’s 1979 debut hit, ‘My Sharona.’ The group was staged against a black background, a la ‘Meet the Beatles!,’ for the cover photo of their platinum LP ‘Get the Knack.’
“It was a joke. It was a tongue-in-cheek joke,” singer Doug Fieger admitted to Classic Bands. “If you sell six million copies, people aren’t gonna look at you in the same way as if you sell 50,000 copies. They’re not gonna cut you the same slack.”Critics soon turned on the band, which was unable to repeat the overnight success of ‘My Sharona.’ A “Knuke the Knack” campaign was started and, in mid-1982, the band split up.
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I think for many new bands, being compared with famous, former bands can be a distraction. If they are trying to forge their own identity, they certainly don’t need the comparisons, which are usually the preserve of music journalists trying to gain an audience.
For a very young Mona and Lisa at the time, I can well imagine their reactions to ABBA comparisons, and I totally understand this. ABBA was unique and so are The MonaLisa Twins. Comparisons with the Beatles etcetera are different as this is their favourite music.
There have been many examples in the past. Following are some of the more famous:
Badfinger seemed poised to become the “next Beatles” when they signed with Apple Records and scored a Top 10 hit in 1970 with ‘Come and Get It,’ written and produced by Paul McCartney. Comparisons with the Beatles increased as members of the band performed on records by John Lennon, Ringo Starr and George Harrison.
“After a while it got a little bit tiresome,” guitarist Joey Molland told WROK. “People expected John to show up or George, maybe Paul would come and play a bit of bass. A lot of people actually thought it was the Beatles playing under different names. What do you do about that? There was nothing we could do.”
The tragedies and bad luck that followed for Badfinger have, of course, become legend.
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I don’t think you are necessarily unique in regard to your liking ABBA David. I have no doubt there are many in the Club who appreciate ABBA in the same way I do. Following is an extract from a post of mine from 01/02/2019 AT 09:25″
“That doesn’t mean we don’t now appreciate the brilliant composing abilities of Benny and Bjorn and the amazing songs and performances of the four of them. They first really made it in Australia, thanks to Ian (Molly) Meldrum and the ‘Countdown’ weekly music show.”
I particularly like the movie “Mamma Mia!” with all the stars actually singing the songs, no matter how poor their singing might have been. Pierce Brosnan was a revelation to me in that he could have chosen to lipsync someone else but instead used his own voice, even though he knew he wasn’t a good singer. This took a lot of courage but I believe it enhanced the movie’s credentials.
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Hi David. As Jung and Jacki, those famous Canadian MLT Club members have already advised and Jung put so “Britishly” diplomatically, Abba is not MLT’s cup of tea musically.
This issue was discussed at length in the early days of this awesome Club and if you are interested in more detail, I refer you to the much-debated Topic, “The Eurovision song contest…or, will MLT become the next ABBA?”, 01/12/2018 AT 22:47. I suggest you use the much enhanced (by the MLT Superman, Mr. Wagner), “Search” function. Following is part of a response from Lisa at the time:
“And lastly just to settle the ABBA argument and what we have allegedly said or haven’t said: Yes, it’s true we aren’t very keen on their music but then again we aren’t very keen on a whole lot of music out there. The only reason ABBA seems to come up somewhat frequently and has led us to express our personal dislike for their music publicly (though I would think in a lighthearted, joking way) is because we get compared to them so much. And like you pointed out, there are a surprising amount of similarities, many of which we weren’t aware of, so I guess it’s no surprise their name comes up so much
Again, sorry for not getting back to this sooner and we really appreciate all the nice things and supportive words you wrote!
Thanks,
Lisa”Suffice it for me to say, in true John Cleese (Fawlty Towers), spirit, “whatever you do, don’t mention the war!”.
The subject actually resulted in the eventual departure from the Club of a long term MLT fan!
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Awesome David – LOL! Homer has to be one of the all-time classic characters. The Simpsons was a brilliantly scripted show. Unfortunately though, now I’m not going to be able to get that particular scene out of my head either now when I hear those songs! Very funny indeed. Just the sort of character you don’t need near you when you are at a live concert.
I wonder if The MLT had fans screaming out for their favourites like that when they were playing live. I have no doubt that I’d want to put my two bobs worth in for my favourite MLT numbers, and there are so many of them it would be hard to choose!
Brilliant clip. Thank you for sharing!
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What has the EU ever done for us?
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Helen Shapiro – Look Who It Is (Ready Steady Go, 1963).
This clip was recorded in October 4, 1963 at Television House in London. Only three Beatles were helping 17 years old Helen to make a beautiful teenage song. Paul was not there because he was busy in a different TH studio, judging a female singing/dancing contest on Brenda Lee’s “Let’s Jump The Broomstick”.
By a strange coincidence, Paul gave a prize to a girl who ran away from home four years later, which McCartney had read about in a newspaper, and so he wrote “She’s Leaving Home”.
Before she was sixteen years old, Shapiro had been voted Britain’s “Top Female Singer”. The Beatles first national tour of Britain, in the late winter/early spring of 1963, was as one of her supporting acts. During the course of the tour, the Beatles had their first hit single.
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I well remember this song being played on the radio in the mid-seventies. However, In another case of misheard lyrics, at the time I never realised he was singing “Stand Tall”. Not sure what I thought it was, probably Sentor, or something like that.
Burton Cummings (formerly of The Guess Who), “Stand Tall” (1976).
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Nice video Jung. They would have been a great band to see live. The long hair, of course, started in the sixties, around the time of the early Beatles. I still remember being pulled up by teachers and headmasters and told to get a haircut. The same thing happened in the early seventies in my first job working in a bank. I was constantly in trouble for the length of my hair and my not conservative enough dress fashion. I was constantly threatened with being sent into the army to be ‘sorted out’ and this actually happened when I was drafted into National Service in 1972. On the advice of a friend who had recently returned from service in Vietnam and was now a hairdresser, I had my hair cut before my induction so I didn’t have to suffer the indignity of all the other long-haired recruits having their hair shorn by Army barbers! Of course, my hair cut wasn’t good enough and the Army barbers ‘improved’ the job. What an extreme culture shock!
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I’m not knocking the seventies Jacki. There were heaps of great singers and bands. The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Little Feet, Yes, The Allman Brothers Band, Pink Floyd, Neil Young, Black Sabbath, The Who, Bruce Springsteen, Jethro Tull, Joy Division, Steely Dan, Frank Zappa, Elvis Costello, Grateful Dead, Kraftwork, George Harrison, Supertramp, Genesis, Roxy Music, Santana, Queen, John Lennon, Paul McCartney and Wings, Bob Dylan, T. Rex, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Van Morrison, and Blue Oyster Cult to name a few. Maybe because I wasn’t into dancing like the John Travoltas of this world I wasn’t into disco music and was therefore pleased when disco was swamped by New Wave bands that morphed from punk music just after the mid seventies.
I actually like the Amii Stewart video. She is a stunning looking woman with beautiful, smooth brown skin and I like the very colourful choreography.
Some of the fashions of the time were outrageous and we all wore platform shoes and flared pants with wide belts! Colourful wide ties were fashionable too in paisley and floral colours, especially during the late sixties and early seventies.
