MLT Club Member Jürgen
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And why not also a song for Mona?
The female given name Mona has different origins and different meanings depending on the language. Thus, Mona in Arabic stands for “hope”, in Irish for “noble” and in Spanish for “cute” but also for “monkey”. In Old English, Mona stands for „moon.“
However, the name Mona is also a short form of German first names such as Simona, Monika or Ramona. Also in the famous portrait of Mona Lisa by Leonardo da Vinci, Mona stands for Madonna, so it is actually called Madonna Lisa. Oh, and Mona also exists in various cose forms, e.g. Moni or Mony:
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Great idea Pascal. A very nice song and here is just another one for „Lisa“.
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Hi Jung, still a very exciting topic to which spontaneously some ideas come to my mind (which may be boring for one or the other. So here is a short answer for a quick feedback and for the one who wants to read it there is a long idea on this topic). 🙂
The short reply is: very interesting
The long reply looks like this: I always find it very exciting to watch artists in their creative process and I try to understand what may be going on in their minds and thoughts. When I listen to the words of Paul McCartney (and if I have understood him correctly), this strengthens me in my opinion that many musicians and artists practice their art intuitively. They don’t need formulas and theoretical or technical understanding. Whether painter, musician or man of letters, first there is an idea. The painter may have some shapes and colors in mind, the musician spontaneously comes up with a melody or a rhythm and the writer suddenly has a theme in mind to which he wants to write something. I think the rest happens automatically or unconsciously. Some areas in the brain are activated, cognitions linked, and automatically generate associations, ideas and new thoughts (In the interview, Paul points to his head and says: it’s here). The artist will describe this as a creative process. The painter picks up his brush, the musician his instrument, and both will keep trying until a feeling of satisfaction arises, the whole thing looks good or sounds good. Of course, both artists are unconsciously influenced by things they have already seen or heard (one perhaps by van Gogh, the other one by van Beethoven). But the creative process is more subconscious and that is the creative process itself. The musical notation is an ingenious invention to write down what is played and heard. But a musician does not need an understanding of notes or even of mathematics. Both are only constructs to describe a certain fact. We inherit the rhythm and the beat with our birth. A young child that learns to walk does not know anything about step length, rhythm etc. It just walks. But without a sense of rhythm, it would constantly stumble or fall over. The feeling for rhythm is therefore already innate in all humans. What I want to say is this: Mathematics may help us to describe the phenomenon of music, but it does not help us to understand how music is actually created in our heads and how we then realize it. Music and rhythm are much older than the idea of mathematics and formulas. At least that is my idea. I am still looking for an approach to understand the phenomenon and not only to describe it.
PS: Bach was not a good student, not even in mathematics. In the student ranking of his school in Eisenach, where religion, grammar, and arithmetic were emphasized, he ended up in 47th place in 1693. Sixth last! Whether he had a high school diploma is uncertain.
(Source: Bach researcher Christoph Wolff )
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Hi Jung, I’m sure you can think of some nice gymnastic exercises on the piano. Maybe you can also give them names, similar to the Tai-Chi exercises. I have already thought of three nice figures:
- Handstand on the piano with one arm, then you can play with the other hand („The Mozart candle“)
- Trampoline jump exercise with a forward roll followed by a touch on the piano keyboard (“Roll over Beethoven“)
- Lying flat under the piano with only your outstretched arms and hands playing on the keyboard („Bach on the floor“). By the way, the name „Bach“ is the german word for creek. So to say „Creek on the floor“. 🙂
I always find it amazing how well „Bohemian Rhapsody“ can be transferred to other instruments. On the ancient organ, which I presented above, the piece of music sounds very good and on the Harpejji as well. A beautiful, varied and full sound. “Queen” has created a complex and ingenious universal song.
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Every musician who diligently practices his instrument knows the resulting problems: tension in the shoulder and neck area, aching hands and arms. There’s only one thing that can help: simply change your sitting position more often and adopt a different posture. This musician shows how to do it on the piano.
PS: Do not despair if it does not work immediately. He is an artistic gymnast.
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Hi Jung, yes “Questionable” is a wonderful song, full of emotions. For me personally probably the most beautiful song of the last new releases. I like the catchy melody, the soulful vocals and the varied structure of the whole piece of music. A very sensitive song. It almost seems like M&L wrote this song especially for your topic „Music is the language of emotions“. 🙂
PS: However, some of the titles of their new songs could be a bit catchier. „Questionable“, for example, is a bit of a tongue twister for non-native speakers.
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Thank you for these two very beautiful photos Jung. Yes the vastness of the sea has something soothing and perhaps also something spiritual. Body and mind freed from their limits and united for a wonderful moment. We humans are so involved in our daily lives and habits that we often forget what is essential in our lives or what is good for us. Sometimes we lose ourselves in unimportant details or the worries of everyday life are overwhelming. The sea has always had a special fascination for me, too. The ocean always manages to put things of life that have gotten mixed up into the right relationship again. It is a mixture of humility but at the same time also a great joy that I feel there. A feeling of freedom and boundlessness that comes over you at the sight of these magnificent forces of nature. I can well imagine that your Alaskan cruises have left a lasting memory with you and literally a fresh wind has blown through your mind. An extraordinary chance to reorder your thoughts. Certainly a great experience that will accompany you throughout your life and a place to return to with loving thoughts.
A mood that Vangelis perhaps captured beautifully with the following piece of music:
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Hallo Dieter,
welcome to the “club” and many greetings from the Midwest. Then we have discovered the passion for the music of Mona and Lisa at about the same time. Yes, their music is wonderful and timeless. Just like you, I “stumbled across” them on youtube. Fortunately.
Viele Grüße
Jürgen
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Hello Leif, that looks great. But leave some space on your wall. Who knows what you’ll win next time. 🙂
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Hello Diana,
we humans always tend to understand and explain everything. You are so right: sometimes it is much more beautiful when things remain inexplicable and thus retain a magic that fascinates and enchants us again and again. When you can’t even put it into words, then it speaks the language of the heart and feeds your soul.
Jürgen
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Hallo Dieter,
vielen Dank für deine Antwort, über die ich mich gefreut habe. Du kommst aus Dinslaken? Sehr schön, dann waren wir vielleicht wirklich fast Nachbarn. Ich habe bis 2013 in Hiesfeld gewohnt und danach hat es mich an den Niederrhein nach Moers gezogen. Ursprünglich komme ich aus Oberhausen.
Auf Mona und Lisa bin ich aufmerksam geworden, als ich vor einigen Jahren nach einer Alternativversion von „While My Guitar Gently Weeps“ gesucht habe. Es gibt da diese sehr schöne und ruhige Version der Beatles, zu der auch ein wunderschöner Videoclip existiert (von CIRQUE DU SOLEIL, kennst Du bestimmt). Tja und bei dieser Suche habe ich auch das Video von Mona und Lisa entdeckt.
Witzigerweise dachte ich zunächst, dass die beiden vielleicht aus Köln oder Düsseldorf kommen, weil in diesem Video die Kölner Regionalbahn und Teile des Kölner HBFs zu sehen sind.
An ihrer Musik gefällt mir besonders gut, dass sie die einzelnen Songs mit ihrem Herzblut spielen und sie selber von der Musik berührt sind. Es gibt viele Covermusiker, die fremde Stücke einfach recht lieblos nachspielen (warum auch immer). 2019 bin ich dann dem MLT-Club beigetreten, um Mona und Lisa auf diesem Weg zumindest ein wenig unterstützen zu können. Was mich an ihrer Musik fasziniert, ist die Tatsache, dass sie immer sehr nah an den Originalversionen der Beatles bleiben und es trotzdem schaffen ihre eigene Note aufzudrücken. Und manchmal denke ich: So müssten die Beatles geklungen haben, wenn sie Frauen gewesen wären. Ein faszinierender Gedanke. Besonders gelungen finde ich das Album „Orange“, auf dem sich viele schöne und vor allem zeitlose Lieder befinden. Schöne Stücke, die man sich nach vielen Jahren auch noch anhören kann, ohne das man sie leid wird.
Falls Du Interesse und Zeit hast, dich weiter mit mir auszutauschen (worüber ich mich freuen würde), so gibt es hier im Forum die Möglichkeit, sich gegenseitig private Nachrichten zu schicken, die nur den Adressaten betreffen.
(Und natürlich auch die allgemeinen Diskussionen, die oft ziemlich interessant sein können)
Viele Grüße
Jürgen
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Oh yes Leif, I can see it in your eyes, that determination that says: what doesn’t fit will be made to fit and I understand: there is always a place for Mona and Lisa in your life and your heart. Have fun decorating your special wall !
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Hi Jung, please keep up the good work. The year has on average 365 days and I personally can’t think of 365 topics that have to do directly with Mona and Lisa (and that every year anew). As wonderful as it is to exchange about MLT and their music, in my opinion it is also great and important to be able to exchange about the topic of music in general. Sometimes in direct reference to M&L, sometimes in more indirect reference, for example, when it comes to the Beatles or other bands whose songs they have covered. I personally find it exciting to be able to exchange ideas with other people about the topic of music. In my circle of friends I can’t do that in this intensity. Here there are many like-minded people and I find that great. And as long as the focus here is on the topic of music, I think that’s perfectly fine. It creates a sense of community and a sense of belonging and that’s a nice feeling. Music has a lot to do with feelings or thoughts or ideas that you have when you listen to music. All of that is part of the topic of music and in my opinion should also be part of this forum. Everybody here in the forum has the possibility to start an own topic at any time. Not every topic will appeal to everyone in the forum in the same way, but it is up to everyone which topic he reads and which not. Personally, I am a friend of diversity and also love “peripheral areas”. But I also like to learn something from the individual people here in the forum and to get to know new things through their thoughts, through their eyes and through their ears. Which topics are finally welcome here, only Mona and Lisa can decide, because it is their forum. Whether I continue to like the forum, however, is my decision.
